There appears needless outrage against branding of certain freedom fighters as terrorists. We certainly respect and highly evaluate the supreme sacrifice of all freedom fighters- whatever be their method- violent or non violent.

But can we say that Bhagat Singh, Subhsash Chandra Bose and Khudi Ram Bose were non violent. We have to say that they believed in violence. Similarly, if they believed in attacking and killing the government officers/ police personnel- even though for freedom fight- will they not be characterized as terrorists.

Here I wish to refer to commnts of Freedom fighter and revolutioary- Yash Pal, who was in The Hindustan Socialist Republic army that consisted of Chandra shekhar Azad- Commander in chief (Bal Raj was the name actiually used for security purpose). Yashpal writes in his book 'Sinhavalokan) that ultimately Bhagat Singh came to understanding that terrorism was not an effective method and mass movement alone can bring freedom. This implies that these revolutionaries believed in terrorism for a very long time. However we highly respect the supreme sacrifice of even the terrorist freedom fighters.

https://in.news.yahoo.com/bengal-textbook-calls-freedom-fighters-terrorists-083657180.html

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  • Re: Revolutionary patriots and terrorism

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    rambabu
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    A rebellion against a system or government can be successfully carried out without arms. This has been proved by Mahatma Gandhi who has dethroned the mighty British through Satyagraha and non cooperation . Great leaders like Martin Luther king who was influenced by Satyagraha achieved the rights for Blacks through peaceful mass movements.

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    Mousumi Ghosh
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    I don't think that only M.K Gandhi can be given the credit for freeing our country from the British rule. The contribution of Subhash Bose and Bhagat Singh certainly cannot be disregarded.

    “A mistake is a crash-course in learning” – Billy Anderson


  • Re: Revolutionary patriots and terrorism

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    rambabu
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    I don't think that only M.K Gandhi can be given the credit for freeing our country from the British rule. The contribution of Subhash Bose and Bhagat Singh certainly cannot be disregarded.


    The thread is not about who was instrumental in achieving independence to India. the issue is about how one can show discontentment against the system without Arms. Subhas chandra Bose and Bhagat Singh were also definitely responsible for achieving independence to India. But they took to Arms.

  • Re: Revolutionary patriots and terrorism

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    Violence begets violence and there is no end to it how much ever one justifies it. But speaking about BhagatSingh and others , we need to evaluate it differently since times were different and circumstances were different...If anyone justifies terrorism and violence in the name of patriotism then all the naxalites and Jihadi terrorists would become heroes. It is always better to find solution through talk and a little bit of compromise instead of revolting aginst the system and cause misery and pain to innocent people..

    Pay no mind to those who talk behind your back, it simply means that you are two steps ahead !!!


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  • Re: Revolutionary patriots and terrorism

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    rambabu
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    Violence begets violence and there is no end to it how much ever one justifies it. But speaking about BhagatSingh and others , we need to evaluate it differently since times were different and circumstances were different...If anyone justifies terrorism and violence in the name of patriotism then all the naxalites and Jihadi terrorists would become heroes. It is always better to find solution through talk and a little bit of compromise instead of revolting aginst the system and cause misery and pain to innocent people..


    According to the link, even Bhagat Singh admitted Violence need not be a part of a rebellion.

  • Re: Revolutionary patriots and terrorism

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    Gulshan Kumar Ajmani
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    Violence begets violence and there is no end to it how much ever one justifies it. But speaking about BhagatSingh and others , we need to evaluate it differently since times were different and circumstances were different...If anyone justifies terrorism and violence in the name of patriotism then all the naxalites and Jihadi terrorists would become heroes. It is always better to find solution through talk and a little bit of compromise instead of revolting aginst the system and cause misery and pain to innocent people..


    According to the link, even Bhagat Singh admitted Violence need not be a part of a rebellion.


    We do not any underrate the cotribution of armd revolutionaries. They were very patriot and we shall be indebted to us. But terrorism is terrorism. Subhsh Chandra Bose was not a terrorist as he waged a full scale war by organizing Azad Hind Fauz or INA. Chandra Shekhar Azad, Bhagat singh and others indulged in terrorist act. Their terrorism was for independence and so we appreciate that. But we have to say that they were terrorist. At best we may dscribe them as patriotic and nationalistic terrorist. Bhagat singh had also later realized the futility of terrorism. He changed to revolutionary. Revolution means mass movement. Here is not question of violence or non violence. The issie is of mass participation. The mass movement may be violent or non violent.

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  • Re: Revolutionary patriots and terrorism

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    Mousumi Ghosh
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    I don't think that only M.K Gandhi can be given the credit for freeing our country from the British rule. The contribution of Subhash Bose and Bhagat Singh certainly cannot be disregarded.


    The thread is not about who was instrumental in achieving independence to India. the issue is about how one can show discontentment against the system without Arms. Subhas chandra Bose and Bhagat Singh were also definitely responsible for achieving independence to India. But they took to Arms.


    Yes, I understand the thread and the motive behind it. But certainly I can't agree with something just because it is considered correct by many. We certainly cannot equate terrorists and revolutionary patriots..if we do this..it would amount as a disrespectful gesture towards legends like Bose and Bhagat Singh and many more.

    I don't want to digress from the thread topic, but peaceful measures may not always work..for instance we all know about the growing tension and tussle between India and Pakistan. Using peaceful means to solve matters between India and Paksitan has not worked..which is quite evident.

    “A mistake is a crash-course in learning” – Billy Anderson


  • Re: Revolutionary patriots and terrorism

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    rambabu
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    I don't think that only M.K Gandhi can be given the credit for freeing our country from the British rule. The contribution of Subhash Bose and Bhagat Singh certainly cannot be disregarded.


    The thread is not about who was instrumental in achieving independence to India. the issue is about how one can show discontentment against the system without Arms. Subhas chandra Bose and Bhagat Singh were also definitely responsible for achieving independence to India. But they took to Arms.


    Yes, I understand the thread and the motive behind it. But certainly I can't agree with something just because it is considered correct by many. We certainly cannot equate terrorists and revolutionary patriots..if we do this..it would amount as a disrespectful gesture towards legends like Bose and Bhagat Singh and many more.

    I don't want to digress from the thread topic, but peaceful measures may not always work..for instance we all know about the growing tension and tussle between India and Pakistan. Using peaceful means to solve matters between India and Paksitan has not worked..which is quite evident.


    Yes agreed. Pakistan was taught lessons on many occasions. Because we dealt with them in the language they understood. Can be there be bigger lesson than dividing the country? If still Pak fails to understand this time it will be erased from the map. A time is there for everything .
    It took many decades for Gandhi to make the British flee through his Satyagraha. But succeeded.

    Thank you said by: Mousumi Ghosh

  • Re: Revolutionary patriots and terrorism

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    Gulshan Kumar Ajmani
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    I don't think that only M.K Gandhi can be given the credit for freeing our country from the British rule. The contribution of Subhash Bose and Bhagat Singh certainly cannot be disregarded.


    The thread is not about who was instrumental in achieving independence to India. the issue is about how one can show discontentment against the system without Arms. Subhas chandra Bose and Bhagat Singh were also definitely responsible for achieving independence to India. But they took to Arms.


    Yes, I understand the thread and the motive behind it. But certainly I can't agree with something just because it is considered correct by many. We certainly cannot equate terrorists and revolutionary patriots..if we do this..it would amount as a disrespectful gesture towards legends like Bose and Bhagat Singh and many more.

    I don't want to digress from the thread topic, but peaceful measures may not always work..for instance we all know about the growing tension and tussle between India and Pakistan. Using peaceful means to solve matters between India and Paksitan has not worked..which is quite evident.


    I agree peaceful method does ot always work. Viuolence may be justified. Abraham Lincoln also waged war to eliminate slavery. But we have to ask spade a spade. How can we say that Subhash Chandra Bose was non violent. How can we say that Bhagat singh was non violent and not a terrorist. At best you may say that they resorted to terrorism for sake of country and they were patriot. Even Mahabharat war justified in Bhagwat Geetha was violent. All that we need to stres is that we should see things as these are. If you support Bhagat singh's methods- frankly say that you support terrorism if this is for attaining independnce. But a terrorist has to be described as terrorist- whatever be the purpose.

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