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rambabu
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Reservations is disease plaguing this country. Unless this country get rid of Reservation system, we continue to stay in Dark ages sans progress and Development .

anil
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rambabu wrote:

Reservations is disease plaguing this country. Unless this country get rid of Reservation system, we continue to stay in Dark ages sans progress and Development

I think must be accept it that some community need reservation but person after availing reservation, than it is his/her duty to help their families like others. .

 

MG Singh
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Jincy Aby wrote:

The education and job should be on the basis of merit and not on the basis of caste. Otherwise, talented and capable people cannot reach in deserved positions. Government should take action to stop such unnecessary practices from this society. 

Government will not do anything and as a matter of fact they have perpetuated caste reservation for ever. How government will do anything. Our so called reformers like Gandhi and Vivekanada also backed the caste system. So the only hope is a revolution

 

MG Singh
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rambabu wrote:

Reservations is disease plaguing this country. Unless this country get rid of Reservation system, we continue to stay in Dark ages sans progress and Development .

I ask how will it be done and who will do it. remember Gandhi and Vivekananda backed caste system,  so what is solution?

 

7 years ago

 

Personally I was quite oblivious to MOST of the layers within layers that have become entrenched in the caste system, until I was handling a weekend news supplement which had a column by a Dalit writer. Chandrabhan Prasad. Then I discovered, and I'm going to put this down very generally, and simplistically, that the subdivisions and hierarchies that have risen within the castes are one reason the situation is one entangled mess. Within castes you have the 'lower' and higher and the someone or another of another religion within the caste and subcaste, and then the community that does a certain profession etc. It just gets complicated, but all these convolutions and complicated, weird arrangements are what keep the system alive. Ideally what they should do is just scrap the column, 'Caste'' entirely from all official documents, and then you'll see the people left floundering are the ones with the most prejudices. They will be those who give it most importance. And those who've given it unnecessary importance to their identity, because they don't know better or are complete innocents about the effects of being stereotyped or put in a box. On the other hand, the ones with the prejudices are also innocent because they haven't been in the right environment, or had the right experiences that would make them feel differently. Unless of course they are sociopaths, which is different matter altogether

If they just had the column, Indian, Asian (just for the sake of international communication)-though I and a million others would prefer HUMAN BEING, or INTERGALATIC SPECIMEN or LIFE FORM, which is what we essentially are-it would be a different scenario. Though I'm sure the silliness of the unemployed human mind would find something else to fill that gap. I think its too simplistic  to say the 'politician' is the culprit. Doesn't a mass of over a billion people have a brain. The politician does not have an magic hypnotic quality, apart from the one that we assign to him. He fulfills a function that we have put him up to, because we don't want to do it ourselves.

It has served some factions interests to keep this ludicrous system in place, (though you will argue that Manu the Codegiver was racist, as he was sexist, but those were diffeent ages calling for a different social plan). Or so it seems.

But I also think a lot of people simply haven't thought over it much. They grew up with it, and its what they are used to.

Most people don't have the energy and luxury to ponder over these things, unless it affects them personally. They already have the job of survival to deal with. So its the job of thinkers and intellectualls to ponder over all that and incite change. Otherwise caste has no meaning. It is an abstract concept and only gains weightage if you give it attributes.

Otherwise, I mean will it really be difficult to put up an internet petition that calls for all Indians to sign and do away with the caste tag officially by scrapping it from the books and agree to Vasudev Kutumbakam.  At least as a form of identification. It shouldn't take any machinery if we all thought alike. What will be interesting will be to see the reason why people might oppose such a simple idea. Because otherwise national borders are redrawn overnight, new currencies are created overnight, governments topple overnight. So will this be so difficult. Its mainly about reimagining reality as you thought you knew it.

And I don't think it will  take that much longer to figure out what this will means and how you might identify people without all those earlier trappings, unless you've never done that in the first place. Or are starting life as a little kid without any adult baggage. I don't think if you  said you were a Bihari Kshyatria or Himachali Kshyatriya I'm going to think of you as a person as someone who goes around fighting people with swords on horseback. And some of my so-called 'Brahmin' buddies have agreed that you only become a true Brahmin if you are acting with your higher nature. Because that is what it should really be about. The self. And everyone has a higher and lower nature. So that means everyone is a Brahmin and a Shudra depending on their action and how much thought they give to the outcome, as well as their intent. And this is different at different times.

So a priest will fall in behaviour to the level of a scoundrel, and a murderer can rise to the level of a saint. In fact as a journalist and writer the best part is when I find that the idea you built up of someone because they had a certain tag don't actually define them as a person. A lot of countries bring up kids without any such tags, so it will be the next generation which will get the benefit of some commonsense changes which is inevitable with information and more wisdom. And when people realise that they are no bigger or smaller than anyone else. And that we have all a dignified place in the world. Basically its just absence of love for the other. More love for one's self, one's family, one's tribe.

I'd like to think it was originally either a very abstract concept about the different behavioural tendencies from high to low. Or a practical social division that was simplistic at best, but probably not designed to be evil. Though it eventually got corrupted. Because of man's dual nature. What happened recently in Hyderabad was really sad. But I really wish that poor fellow had stood his ground, because he was the first in his family to study so far, and he should have taken it as a challenge. However, unless you stand in someone else's shoes, its easy to talk. And everyone, no matter how strong they might appear has a breaking point.

It has to take hatred to learn to love. Otherwise in actual fact both good and evil are just abstract concepts.

They don't really exist unless your mind manufactures them. And now that's a rembling essay instead of a reply!

 I'm going to listen to some rock music on Youtube and listen to the rain.


Today I'm going to be the person walking around with a hammer to break someone's heart with, because its Valentine's Day

rambabu
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7 years ago
MG Singh wrote:
rambabu wrote:

Reservations is disease plaguing this country. Unless this country get rid of Reservation system, we continue to stay in Dark ages sans progress and Development .

I ask how will it be done and who will do it. remember Gandhi and Vivekananda backed caste system,  so what is solution?

It's a Million Dollar question, living with us since ages.This question remained  as a question and remains forever. Courtesy our sinister Politicians.

 

 

MG Singh
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7 years ago

We must understand that the caste system cannot be wished away. Most intelligent people are aware of the dangers of the caste system, yet the same is allowed to carry on and acts of parliament are passed perpetuating this evil for ever. What is the solution ? There is none except as Justice Katju says a revolution on the lines of the French revolution of 1789 takes place in India. The caste system is the bug bear of Hinduism and unless it is eradicated, I don\t see any progress. 

I wonder if the opinion of the Chinese Institute of Strategic  STudies that India  will remain a weak and divided nation for ever is correct ?

rambabu
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That's what I was saying all along this discussion. One more thing I'd like to say is a Revolution like French Revolution is beyond imagination for this "KARMA BHOOMI." But it is the characteristic of Hindutva.

 

Babu saroj
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well i am always been against it because i think everything should done on merit  


bhuyali saroj

rambabu
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Babu saroj wrote:

well i am always been against it because i think everything should done on merit  

Poor economic condition and Merit only should be basis for Reservations.

 

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