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[strike][/strike] There are many variants of Hindi. Hindi as is wrtten in print media and used in TV channels is hardly mother tongue of any. There are Brijbhasha, avadhi etc in U.P., garhwali in hilly areas of U.P. and Uttarakhand, maithili and Bhojpuri in Bihar. All these variants go in name of Hindi. Also, some variants like brijbhasha, rajasthani, avadhi are considered as HIndi whereas Punjabi and Nepali are distinct. As a matter of fact, this appears arbitrary. If Punjabi and Marathi could be separate languages distinct from Hindi, why Brijbhasha, Maithili, Rajasthani, Bhojpuri not considered distinct and separate lanuages. All this appears arbitrary with a view to iflate the number of Hindi speakers.

I hope some could elcidate and enlighten as to why rajasthani, Bhojpuri, maithili are Hindi whereas Punjabi, Marathi, Nepali, Dogri are not Hindi.

Another point. Recently some have opined that everyone in India is 'Hindu'. By this logic why all Indian languages are not Hindi. If there could be Hindu Christian as somebody said why then not be Hindi Tamil, Hindi Dogri and so on. Anyway there is Hindi English or Hinglish.


Most of the Hindi that we hear today is a mix of English and Hindi. You must be already aware that in India there are about 22 official languages, and the rest of the languages, including the ones you have listed here namely, Bhojpuri, Maithili, Rajathani have been given the status of dialects. Coming to the point you have mentioned "why rajasthani, Bhojpuri, maithili are Hindi whereas Punjabi, Marathi, Nepali, Dogri are not Hindi.// Some of these dialects sound similar to Hindi, perhaps that is the reason why they have been classed as a sub-variety of Hindi.
This the closest answer I can think of.


According to the link article more than 60 percent speak other than Hindi. The statistics are dealt convincingly. So, Hindi is not the language of majority of people.


That said..it provides an answer to the thread title. I was trying to answer this question //I hope some could elcidate and enlighten as to why rajasthani, Bhojpuri, maithili are Hindi whereas Punjabi, Marathi, Nepali, Dogri are not Hindi.//


That part of the thread can be answered by the language pundits. No where in the web I could get an answer for Gulshan's query.
[strike][/strike] There are many variants of Hindi. Hindi as is wrtten in print media and used in TV channels is hardly mother tongue of any. There are Brijbhasha, avadhi etc in U.P., garhwali in hilly areas of U.P. and Uttarakhand, maithili and Bhojpuri in Bihar. All these variants go in name of Hindi. Also, some variants like brijbhasha, rajasthani, avadhi are considered as HIndi whereas Punjabi and Nepali are distinct. As a matter of fact, this appears arbitrary. If Punjabi and Marathi could be separate languages distinct from Hindi, why Brijbhasha, Maithili, Rajasthani, Bhojpuri not considered distinct and separate lanuages. All this appears arbitrary with a view to iflate the number of Hindi speakers.

I hope some could elcidate and enlighten as to why rajasthani, Bhojpuri, maithili are Hindi whereas Punjabi, Marathi, Nepali, Dogri are not Hindi.

Another point. Recently some have opined that everyone in India is 'Hindu'. By this logic why all Indian languages are not Hindi. If there could be Hindu Christian as somebody said why then not be Hindi Tamil, Hindi Dogri and so on. Anyway there is Hindi English or Hinglish.


Most of the Hindi that we hear today is a mix of English and Hindi. You must be already aware that in India there are about 22 official languages, and the rest of the languages, including the ones you have listed here namely, Bhojpuri, Maithili, Rajathani have been given the status of dialects. Coming to the point you have mentioned "why rajasthani, Bhojpuri, maithili are Hindi whereas Punjabi, Marathi, Nepali, Dogri are not Hindi.// Some of these dialects sound similar to Hindi, perhaps that is the reason why they have been classed as a sub-variety of Hindi.
This the closest answer I can think of.


According to the link article more than 60 percent speak other than Hindi. The statistics are dealt convincingly. So, Hindi is not the language of majority of people.


That said..it provides an answer to the thread title. I was trying to answer this question //I hope some could elcidate and enlighten as to why rajasthani, Bhojpuri, maithili are Hindi whereas Punjabi, Marathi, Nepali, Dogri are not Hindi.//


That part of the thread can be answered by the language pundits. No where in the web I could get an answer for Gulshan's query.


Yes, even I tried :) but the answer is not available.

“A mistake is a crash-course in learning” – Billy Anderson

[strike][/strike] There are many variants of Hindi. Hindi as is wrtten in print media and used in TV channels is hardly mother tongue of any. There are Brijbhasha, avadhi etc in U.P., garhwali in hilly areas of U.P. and Uttarakhand, maithili and Bhojpuri in Bihar. All these variants go in name of Hindi. Also, some variants like brijbhasha, rajasthani, avadhi are considered as HIndi whereas Punjabi and Nepali are distinct. As a matter of fact, this appears arbitrary. If Punjabi and Marathi could be separate languages distinct from Hindi, why Brijbhasha, Maithili, Rajasthani, Bhojpuri not considered distinct and separate lanuages. All this appears arbitrary with a view to iflate the number of Hindi speakers.

I hope some could elcidate and enlighten as to why rajasthani, Bhojpuri, maithili are Hindi whereas Punjabi, Marathi, Nepali, Dogri are not Hindi.

Another point. Recently some have opined that everyone in India is 'Hindu'. By this logic why all Indian languages are not Hindi. If there could be Hindu Christian as somebody said why then not be Hindi Tamil, Hindi Dogri and so on. Anyway there is Hindi English or Hinglish.


Most of the Hindi that we hear today is a mix of English and Hindi. You must be already aware that in India there are about 22 official languages, and the rest of the languages, including the ones you have listed here namely, Bhojpuri, Maithili, Rajathani have been given the status of dialects. Coming to the point you have mentioned "why rajasthani, Bhojpuri, maithili are Hindi whereas Punjabi, Marathi, Nepali, Dogri are not Hindi.// Some of these dialects sound similar to Hindi, perhaps that is the reason why they have been classed as a sub-variety of Hindi.
This the closest answer I can think of.


According to the link article more than 60 percent speak other than Hindi. The statistics are dealt convincingly. So, Hindi is not the language of majority of people.


That said..it provides an answer to the thread title. I was trying to answer this question //I hope some could elcidate and enlighten as to why rajasthani, Bhojpuri, maithili are Hindi whereas Punjabi, Marathi, Nepali, Dogri are not Hindi.//


That part of the thread can be answered by the language pundits. No where in the web I could get an answer for Gulshan's query.


Yes, even I tried :) but the answer is not available.


Even Gulshan too might have tried. That's why, he has asked the members. I too was interested to know.
[strike][/strike] There are many variants of Hindi. Hindi as is wrtten in print media and used in TV channels is hardly mother tongue of any. There are Brijbhasha, avadhi etc in U.P., garhwali in hilly areas of U.P. and Uttarakhand, maithili and Bhojpuri in Bihar. All these variants go in name of Hindi. Also, some variants like brijbhasha, rajasthani, avadhi are considered as HIndi whereas Punjabi and Nepali are distinct. As a matter of fact, this appears arbitrary. If Punjabi and Marathi could be separate languages distinct from Hindi, why Brijbhasha, Maithili, Rajasthani, Bhojpuri not considered distinct and separate lanuages. All this appears arbitrary with a view to iflate the number of Hindi speakers.

I hope some could elcidate and enlighten as to why rajasthani, Bhojpuri, maithili are Hindi whereas Punjabi, Marathi, Nepali, Dogri are not Hindi.

Another point. Recently some have opined that everyone in India is 'Hindu'. By this logic why all Indian languages are not Hindi. If there could be Hindu Christian as somebody said why then not be Hindi Tamil, Hindi Dogri and so on. Anyway there is Hindi English or Hinglish.


//Another point. Recently some have opined that everyone in India is 'Hindu'. By this logic why all Indian languages are not Hindi. If there could be Hindu Christian as somebody said why then not be Hindi Tamil, Hindi Dogri and so on. Anyway there is Hindi English or Hinglish.[/quote]-- To this I think in the near future we have the possibility of having such terms come in vogue...like Hindi Tamil-- an Tamilian who is equally adept at using both these languages. We already have Hindu-Tamil, Hindu-Bengali, Muslim-Bengali and so on.

“A mistake is a crash-course in learning” – Billy Anderson

Thank you said by: Gulshan Kumar Ajmani
[strike][/strike] There are many variants of Hindi. Hindi as is wrtten in print media and used in TV channels is hardly mother tongue of any. There are Brijbhasha, avadhi etc in U.P., garhwali in hilly areas of U.P. and Uttarakhand, maithili and Bhojpuri in Bihar. All these variants go in name of Hindi. Also, some variants like brijbhasha, rajasthani, avadhi are considered as HIndi whereas Punjabi and Nepali are distinct. As a matter of fact, this appears arbitrary. If Punjabi and Marathi could be separate languages distinct from Hindi, why Brijbhasha, Maithili, Rajasthani, Bhojpuri not considered distinct and separate lanuages. All this appears arbitrary with a view to iflate the number of Hindi speakers.

I hope some could elcidate and enlighten as to why rajasthani, Bhojpuri, maithili are Hindi whereas Punjabi, Marathi, Nepali, Dogri are not Hindi.

Another point. Recently some have opined that everyone in India is 'Hindu'. By this logic why all Indian languages are not Hindi. If there could be Hindu Christian as somebody said why then not be Hindi Tamil, Hindi Dogri and so on. Anyway there is Hindi English or Hinglish.




//Another point. Recently some have opined that everyone in India is 'Hindu'. By this logic why all Indian languages are not Hindi. If there could be Hindu Christian as somebody said why then not be Hindi Tamil, Hindi Dogri and so on. Anyway there is Hindi English or Hinglish.
-- To this I think in the near future we have the possibility of having such terms come in vogue...like Hindi Tamil-- an Tamilian who is equally adept at using both these languages. We already have Hindu-Tamil, Hindu-Bengali, Muslim-Bengali and so on.[/quote]

Of course with time these words may come in to vogue. But personally i'm against these features which are of no use in a Human's life.
[strike][/strike] There are many variants of Hindi. Hindi as is wrtten in print media and used in TV channels is hardly mother tongue of any. There are Brijbhasha, avadhi etc in U.P., garhwali in hilly areas of U.P. and Uttarakhand, maithili and Bhojpuri in Bihar. All these variants go in name of Hindi. Also, some variants like brijbhasha, rajasthani, avadhi are considered as HIndi whereas Punjabi and Nepali are distinct. As a matter of fact, this appears arbitrary. If Punjabi and Marathi could be separate languages distinct from Hindi, why Brijbhasha, Maithili, Rajasthani, Bhojpuri not considered distinct and separate lanuages. All this appears arbitrary with a view to iflate the number of Hindi speakers.

I hope some could elcidate and enlighten as to why rajasthani, Bhojpuri, maithili are Hindi whereas Punjabi, Marathi, Nepali, Dogri are not Hindi.

Another point. Recently some have opined that everyone in India is 'Hindu'. By this logic why all Indian languages are not Hindi. If there could be Hindu Christian as somebody said why then not be Hindi Tamil, Hindi Dogri and so on. Anyway there is Hindi English or Hinglish.




//Another point. Recently some have opined that everyone in India is 'Hindu'. By this logic why all Indian languages are not Hindi. If there could be Hindu Christian as somebody said why then not be Hindi Tamil, Hindi Dogri and so on. Anyway there is Hindi English or Hinglish.
-- To this I think in the near future we have the possibility of having such terms come in vogue...like Hindi Tamil-- an Tamilian who is equally adept at using both these languages. We already have Hindu-Tamil, Hindu-Bengali, Muslim-Bengali and so on.


Of course with time these words may come in to vogue. But personally i'm against these features which are of no use in a Human's life.[/quote]

Our personal choice really cannot help stop such occurences..such as Hinglish..which I sometimes hate to use...I hear that quite often. But my personal dislike doesn't stop others from using it. So we can do nothing except accepting these changes.

“A mistake is a crash-course in learning” – Billy Anderson

[strike][/strike] There are many variants of Hindi. Hindi as is wrtten in print media and used in TV channels is hardly mother tongue of any. There are Brijbhasha, avadhi etc in U.P., garhwali in hilly areas of U.P. and Uttarakhand, maithili and Bhojpuri in Bihar. All these variants go in name of Hindi. Also, some variants like brijbhasha, rajasthani, avadhi are considered as HIndi whereas Punjabi and Nepali are distinct. As a matter of fact, this appears arbitrary. If Punjabi and Marathi could be separate languages distinct from Hindi, why Brijbhasha, Maithili, Rajasthani, Bhojpuri not considered distinct and separate lanuages. All this appears arbitrary with a view to iflate the number of Hindi speakers.

I hope some could elcidate and enlighten as to why rajasthani, Bhojpuri, maithili are Hindi whereas Punjabi, Marathi, Nepali, Dogri are not Hindi.

Another point. Recently some have opined that everyone in India is 'Hindu'. By this logic why all Indian languages are not Hindi. If there could be Hindu Christian as somebody said why then not be Hindi Tamil, Hindi Dogri and so on. Anyway there is Hindi English or Hinglish.




//Another point. Recently some have opined that everyone in India is 'Hindu'. By this logic why all Indian languages are not Hindi. If there could be Hindu Christian as somebody said why then not be Hindi Tamil, Hindi Dogri and so on. Anyway there is Hindi English or Hinglish.
-- To this I think in the near future we have the possibility of having such terms come in vogue...like Hindi Tamil-- an Tamilian who is equally adept at using both these languages. We already have Hindu-Tamil, Hindu-Bengali, Muslim-Bengali and so on.


Of course with time these words may come in to vogue. But personally i'm against these features which are of no use in a Human's life.


Our personal choice really cannot help stop such occurences..such as Hinglish..which I sometimes hate to use...I hear that quite often. But my personal dislike doesn't stop others from using it. So we can do nothing except accepting these changes.[/quote]

But Hinglish and mixed dialogues are widely used and well accepted in Ad world.
[strike][/strike] There are many variants of Hindi. Hindi as is wrtten in print media and used in TV channels is hardly mother tongue of any. There are Brijbhasha, avadhi etc in U.P., garhwali in hilly areas of U.P. and Uttarakhand, maithili and Bhojpuri in Bihar. All these variants go in name of Hindi. Also, some variants like brijbhasha, rajasthani, avadhi are considered as HIndi whereas Punjabi and Nepali are distinct. As a matter of fact, this appears arbitrary. If Punjabi and Marathi could be separate languages distinct from Hindi, why Brijbhasha, Maithili, Rajasthani, Bhojpuri not considered distinct and separate lanuages. All this appears arbitrary with a view to iflate the number of Hindi speakers.

I hope some could elcidate and enlighten as to why rajasthani, Bhojpuri, maithili are Hindi whereas Punjabi, Marathi, Nepali, Dogri are not Hindi.

Another point. Recently some have opined that everyone in India is 'Hindu'. By this logic why all Indian languages are not Hindi. If there could be Hindu Christian as somebody said why then not be Hindi Tamil, Hindi Dogri and so on. Anyway there is Hindi English or Hinglish.




//Another point. Recently some have opined that everyone in India is 'Hindu'. By this logic why all Indian languages are not Hindi. If there could be Hindu Christian as somebody said why then not be Hindi Tamil, Hindi Dogri and so on. Anyway there is Hindi English or Hinglish.
-- To this I think in the near future we have the possibility of having such terms come in vogue...like Hindi Tamil-- an Tamilian who is equally adept at using both these languages. We already have Hindu-Tamil, Hindu-Bengali, Muslim-Bengali and so on.


Of course with time these words may come in to vogue. But personally i'm against these features which are of no use in a Human's life.


Our personal choice really cannot help stop such occurences..such as Hinglish..which I sometimes hate to use...I hear that quite often. But my personal dislike doesn't stop others from using it. So we can do nothing except accepting these changes.


But Hinglish and mixed dialogues are widely used and well accepted in Ad world.[/quote]

Yes, copy writing has paved way for Hinglish and using Hinglish makes it easier to create catchy phrases and two-liners in the ad world.

“A mistake is a crash-course in learning” – Billy Anderson

[strike][/strike] There are many variants of Hindi. Hindi as is wrtten in print media and used in TV channels is hardly mother tongue of any. There are Brijbhasha, avadhi etc in U.P., garhwali in hilly areas of U.P. and Uttarakhand, maithili and Bhojpuri in Bihar. All these variants go in name of Hindi. Also, some variants like brijbhasha, rajasthani, avadhi are considered as HIndi whereas Punjabi and Nepali are distinct. As a matter of fact, this appears arbitrary. If Punjabi and Marathi could be separate languages distinct from Hindi, why Brijbhasha, Maithili, Rajasthani, Bhojpuri not considered distinct and separate lanuages. All this appears arbitrary with a view to iflate the number of Hindi speakers.

I hope some could elcidate and enlighten as to why rajasthani, Bhojpuri, maithili are Hindi whereas Punjabi, Marathi, Nepali, Dogri are not Hindi.

Another point. Recently some have opined that everyone in India is 'Hindu'. By this logic why all Indian languages are not Hindi. If there could be Hindu Christian as somebody said why then not be Hindi Tamil, Hindi Dogri and so on. Anyway there is Hindi English or Hinglish.




//Another point. Recently some have opined that everyone in India is 'Hindu'. By this logic why all Indian languages are not Hindi. If there could be Hindu Christian as somebody said why then not be Hindi Tamil, Hindi Dogri and so on. Anyway there is Hindi English or Hinglish.
-- To this I think in the near future we have the possibility of having such terms come in vogue...like Hindi Tamil-- an Tamilian who is equally adept at using both these languages. We already have Hindu-Tamil, Hindu-Bengali, Muslim-Bengali and so on.


Of course with time these words may come in to vogue. But personally i'm against these features which are of no use in a Human's life.


Our personal choice really cannot help stop such occurences..such as Hinglish..which I sometimes hate to use...I hear that quite often. But my personal dislike doesn't stop others from using it. So we can do nothing except accepting these changes.


But Hinglish and mixed dialogues are widely used and well accepted in Ad world.


Yes, copy writing has paved way for Hinglish and using Hinglish makes it easier to create catchy phrases and two-liners in the ad world.[/quote]

Yeh Dil manage more. Is an example.
[strike][/strike] There are many variants of Hindi. Hindi as is wrtten in print media and used in TV channels is hardly mother tongue of any. There are Brijbhasha, avadhi etc in U.P., garhwali in hilly areas of U.P. and Uttarakhand, maithili and Bhojpuri in Bihar. All these variants go in name of Hindi. Also, some variants like brijbhasha, rajasthani, avadhi are considered as HIndi whereas Punjabi and Nepali are distinct. As a matter of fact, this appears arbitrary. If Punjabi and Marathi could be separate languages distinct from Hindi, why Brijbhasha, Maithili, Rajasthani, Bhojpuri not considered distinct and separate lanuages. All this appears arbitrary with a view to iflate the number of Hindi speakers.

I hope some could elcidate and enlighten as to why rajasthani, Bhojpuri, maithili are Hindi whereas Punjabi, Marathi, Nepali, Dogri are not Hindi.

Another point. Recently some have opined that everyone in India is 'Hindu'. By this logic why all Indian languages are not Hindi. If there could be Hindu Christian as somebody said why then not be Hindi Tamil, Hindi Dogri and so on. Anyway there is Hindi English or Hinglish.




//Another point. Recently some have opined that everyone in India is 'Hindu'. By this logic why all Indian languages are not Hindi. If there could be Hindu Christian as somebody said why then not be Hindi Tamil, Hindi Dogri and so on. Anyway there is Hindi English or Hinglish.
-- To this I think in the near future we have the possibility of having such terms come in vogue...like Hindi Tamil-- an Tamilian who is equally adept at using both these languages. We already have Hindu-Tamil, Hindu-Bengali, Muslim-Bengali and so on.


Of course with time these words may come in to vogue. But personally i'm against these features which are of no use in a Human's life.


Our personal choice really cannot help stop such occurences..such as Hinglish..which I sometimes hate to use...I hear that quite often. But my personal dislike doesn't stop others from using it. So we can do nothing except accepting these changes.


But Hinglish and mixed dialogues are widely used and well accepted in Ad world.


Yes, copy writing has paved way for Hinglish and using Hinglish makes it easier to create catchy phrases and two-liners in the ad world.


Yeh Dil manage more. Is an example.[/quote]

Yes, we have several such examples...Vicco turmeric nehi cosmetic..I sometimes feel copywriting can be fun and can let you earn too. imagine if this ad were in Hindi or entirely in English we would't have memorized it and easily.

“A mistake is a crash-course in learning” – Billy Anderson

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