rambabu wrote:

anil wrote:

Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

anil wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

When members tie themselves up in knots trying wriggle out of a tricky situation they have created for themselves ,it is best to leave it alone..

Coming back to the topic, I am told by visitors that Pakistan is a much cleaner country and better organised than India. I have visited Karachi which was more or less like one of our busy cities but Islamabad is supposed to be a cleaner city and people don't use the public places as toilets like they do here in India.

That is surprising indeed! I think in India, apart from some North Eastern states, generally all open, public places are treated as trash bins. It is very surprising that the cleanest village in Asia is Mawlynnong which is in Meghalaya, I have seen a video of it on FB. If they can do it, why can't the others?

I tried to search for the video but can't find it now, but did find the Facebook page, worth checking it out by every one!

https://www.facebook.com/MawlynnongTourist-Spot-Cleanest-village-in-Asia-211074139018631/

 

What a lovely place, definitely worth visiting and like you said Kalyani, if they can do it why not us ? It is all so natural and unspoilt ! let it remain so for decades to come ..

Chandigarh is also a neat and clean city. Our cities are not clean because we depends on government for it. In Delhi AAP government is doing well for cleaning.

 

That is good because the last time I visited Delhi , I fond some areas very filthy ..

If the AAP is really cleaning Delhi, then it is a commendable act and their example should be followed. But I feel that people who have been doing such service without expecting anything should be felicitated and their deeds made known to all, so more people follow their example. eg. Anna Hazare may have fallen low in the eyes of people for carrying his Lokpal agitation too far and then giving in, but he has literally created a heaven in his village Ralegan Siddhi and maintained it for last so many decades. It is due to hia hard work and dedication that his village is one of the cleanest, self-sustained and green village where there is no place for alcoholism, dirt and lazy souls. He should be applauded for this work and his example should be followed.

if you will search you may find more village like Ralegan Sidhi. Part of government is cleaning is very little one. it is depends on the resident of village and city how they like cleanness. If we depends on government than cleaning of any place is not possible. Here is one organization Sacch Soda. This organisation clean big city Panipat with in one day with help of its followers. 

Such voluntary organizations are needed more. . i know there are such organizations with the supporters from the public are doing yeomen service to keep the country neat and clean. And this the very motto of Swatch Bharat.

Swatch Bharat mission will only success with service of voluntary organization with little support of government. Important thing is to keep away politics from this mission.

 

 

anil wrote:

rambabu wrote:

anil wrote:

Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

anil wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

When members tie themselves up in knots trying wriggle out of a tricky situation they have created for themselves ,it is best to leave it alone..

Coming back to the topic, I am told by visitors that Pakistan is a much cleaner country and better organised than India. I have visited Karachi which was more or less like one of our busy cities but Islamabad is supposed to be a cleaner city and people don't use the public places as toilets like they do here in India.

That is surprising indeed! I think in India, apart from some North Eastern states, generally all open, public places are treated as trash bins. It is very surprising that the cleanest village in Asia is Mawlynnong which is in Meghalaya, I have seen a video of it on FB. If they can do it, why can't the others?

I tried to search for the video but can't find it now, but did find the Facebook page, worth checking it out by every one!

https://www.facebook.com/MawlynnongTourist-Spot-Cleanest-village-in-Asia-211074139018631/

 

What a lovely place, definitely worth visiting and like you said Kalyani, if they can do it why not us ? It is all so natural and unspoilt ! let it remain so for decades to come ..

Chandigarh is also a neat and clean city. Our cities are not clean because we depends on government for it. In Delhi AAP government is doing well for cleaning.

 

That is good because the last time I visited Delhi , I fond some areas very filthy ..

If the AAP is really cleaning Delhi, then it is a commendable act and their example should be followed. But I feel that people who have been doing such service without expecting anything should be felicitated and their deeds made known to all, so more people follow their example. eg. Anna Hazare may have fallen low in the eyes of people for carrying his Lokpal agitation too far and then giving in, but he has literally created a heaven in his village Ralegan Siddhi and maintained it for last so many decades. It is due to hia hard work and dedication that his village is one of the cleanest, self-sustained and green village where there is no place for alcoholism, dirt and lazy souls. He should be applauded for this work and his example should be followed.

if you will search you may find more village like Ralegan Sidhi. Part of government is cleaning is very little one. it is depends on the resident of village and city how they like cleanness. If we depends on government than cleaning of any place is not possible. Here is one organization Sacch Soda. This organisation clean big city Panipat with in one day with help of its followers. 

Such voluntary organizations are needed more. . i know there are such organizations with the supporters from the public are doing yeomen service to keep the country neat and clean. And this the very motto of Swatch Bharat.

Swatch Bharat mission will only success with service of voluntary organization with little support of government. Important thing is to keep away politics from this mission.

Of course. In such noble programmes, if politicians enter, the whole programme gets polluted.

 

 

 

usha manohar wrote:

Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:

usha manohar wrote:

Babu saroj wrote:

whereas about cleanliness, i think cleanliness start from every individual house. if we are strict in cleaning our own house then there is nobody who can make our house or our surrounding dirty.

The Indian mentality is to clean ones own house and garden if they have one and throw the rubbish into another compound or street side. It is precisely  because of this attitude that our public places are filthy. How much can the authorities do ?

Very true Usha, Indian mentality is such that each one is concerned with his own personal safety, security and cleanliness and does not feel responsible and accountable for the others. That is why, the first thing when something happens is that the mobs attack and destroy public properties, not considering the fact that they are for our own usage. Same thing goes for public places, they are outside our houses so no harm in dirtying them.

Thankfully, action against spitters is being taken big time in Pune since last week. People spitting from buses and vehicles are forcibly taken off the vehicles and made to pay fines and also clean up their own mess. But the point is, continuity of the action. I only hope that this is carried through out so that finally people stop spitting outside.

It is also imperative that people do it automatically , like they do at home. You don't litter inside your house, so why do it outside ? One more very annoying habit we have is piling building material and building debris on road side or wherever there is space. In Mangalore this had become such a nuisance. It seems to have become a little better although we get to see piles of building material the moment we leave city limits on the road side and empty places. I am not sure who to blame here ?  the authorities for not providing a proper place for getting rid of it or the builders..

True USha, the problem of infrastructure is also there. The problem of disposing different kinds of trash and debris has not been thought of by the authorities and the lack of certain guidelines and proper allocation of space results in such mess everywhere. It is not just Mangalore but all cities and towns where large scale constructions undergo, you see the building debris being dumped in open grounds, river banks, abandoned quarries, roadside open areas etc. Also the builders who are out to make only profits do not bother with where the debris lands, in fact they can take some efforts to get rid of such debris more effectively and in environment friendly manner but that would cost money., which they are not ready to part with.

Kalyani, we have this work culture which never goes from start to finish ! Everywhere you can see half finished work with no co-ordinaton between the different departments involved. Like for example , in my own city the main street in my area was done up with interlocking tiles and it looked really nice. After one year they have dug up the sides to build rain water drains and it was left half finished with the debris collected during the work lying n the sides. Now they are digging up the middle of the road because they have to lay some pipes. Honestly what kind of a work culture is this? Our state government has bee doing this sort of thing all over Bangalore ..now it extends here as well ! I am told they make huge amounts of money each time they call for tender and funds get allocated ..

actually what happened the ministers who are at the present don't have to give money from his/her pocket that's why they are not so active about how much money they are wasting on the same thing again and again.