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  • Re: Is it a good idea to take back part of Kashmir occupied by Pakistan?

    by » 3 months ago


    MG Singh wrote:
    usha manohar wrote:
    suni51 wrote:
    MG Singh wrote:

    I ama soldier and I can tell all readers that a short war can go either way. What if Pakistan makes incursions? We must remember that India couldn't beat the hell out of Pakistan in 4 wars on the western front-47-48, 1965, 1971, and 1998. Despite the trust in 1965 and 71, the army could not capture even Lahore and Sialkot which are just 20 miles from the border. Muzzafabad in POK is just 50 miles away and yet India just captured only a few posts beyond the LOC.  As I said it's not easy.

    Indian army and the leaders of India are in a different mood this time around. The fight will not be limited to self defense but to teach them a lesson that they will remember for a long time. The Indians are in different mind from what they were in previous wars. I know Pakistan can trigger atomic war out of frustration which will harm India but that would certainly be disastrous for Pakistan and they know it.

    I too would think that Indian army is in a much better position now unlike before . However, a full fledged war would only cause loss of lives esp that of our armed forces and civilians too. If they can think of a strategy where Muzzafarabad is taken over , nothing like it .

    The mood was very positive in 65 and 71 but in 48 and 98 there was pessimism. In 65 Shastri agreed to open a front in the Lahore Sialkot sector and India's strike corps moved in but it was held up at the Ichigo canal, a mere 10 miles inside Pakistan and we lost a brigade in trying to cross this canal. In 71 India wanted to advance in teh Punjab and JA& K sector but was thwarted by strong defenses of teh Pak army. Both sides are even now evenly matched. Th Pak army is 700000 and the 7th largest in the world. India has a lesser number of troops to face Pakistan as we have to take care of China as well.

    I understand despite all the rhetoric of Imran Khan the Pak army does not want war with India. I wont be surprised if he is removed by Nov-dec.

    Yes there is a general feeling that something is brewing within Pakistan but I sincerely hope that we don't get a situation where it is either frying pan or fire that we have yo face , because each of their leaders seem scarier and more blood thirsty than the other.


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  • Re: Is it a good idea to take back part of Kashmir occupied by Pakistan?

    by » 3 months ago


    usha manohar wrote:
    MG Singh wrote:
    usha manohar wrote:
    suni51 wrote:
    MG Singh wrote:

    I ama soldier and I can tell all readers that a short war can go either way. What if Pakistan makes incursions? We must remember that India couldn't beat the hell out of Pakistan in 4 wars on the western front-47-48, 1965, 1971, and 1998. Despite the trust in 1965 and 71, the army could not capture even Lahore and Sialkot which are just 20 miles from the border. Muzzafabad in POK is just 50 miles away and yet India just captured only a few posts beyond the LOC.  As I said it's not easy.

    Indian army and the leaders of India are in a different mood this time around. The fight will not be limited to self defense but to teach them a lesson that they will remember for a long time. The Indians are in different mind from what they were in previous wars. I know Pakistan can trigger atomic war out of frustration which will harm India but that would certainly be disastrous for Pakistan and they know it.

    I too would think that Indian army is in a much better position now unlike before . However, a full fledged war would only cause loss of lives esp that of our armed forces and civilians too. If they can think of a strategy where Muzzafarabad is taken over , nothing like it .

    The mood was very positive in 65 and 71 but in 48 and 98 there was pessimism. In 65 Shastri agreed to open a front in the Lahore Sialkot sector and India's strike corps moved in but it was held up at the Ichigo canal, a mere 10 miles inside Pakistan and we lost a brigade in trying to cross this canal. In 71 India wanted to advance in teh Punjab and JA& K sector but was thwarted by strong defenses of teh Pak army. Both sides are even now evenly matched. Th Pak army is 700000 and the 7th largest in the world. India has a lesser number of troops to face Pakistan as we have to take care of China as well.

    I understand despite all the rhetoric of Imran Khan the Pak army does not want war with India. I wont be surprised if he is removed by Nov-dec.

    Yes there is a general feeling that something is brewing within Pakistan but I sincerely hope that we don't get a situation where it is either frying pan or fire that we have yo face , because each of their leaders seem scarier and more blood thirsty than the other.

    Historically when military dictators have ruled Pakistan like General Musharraf and general Zia ul haq relations between India and Pakistan have been better. I have a feeling that incase general Bajwa takes over as president of Pakistan relations between India and Pakistan will be not as bad as it is today


  • Re: Is it a good idea to take back part of Kashmir occupied by Pakistan?

    by » 3 months ago


    Recently I saw to astrology programs on TV of KN  Sinha and  Sant Behara. Both forecast that Imran Khan will be removed as prime minister of Pakistan in November December this year. Astrology is not a benchmark but even Shekher Gupta feels, if Imran gets too big for his boots Bajwa Bajwa will send him packing


  • Re: Is it a good idea to take back part of Kashmir occupied by Pakistan?

    by » 3 months ago


    MG Singh wrote:

    Recently I saw to astrology programs on TV of KN  Sinha and  Sant Behara. Both forecast that Imran Khan will be removed as prime minister of Pakistan in November December this year. Astrology is not a benchmark but even Shekher Gupta feels, if Imran gets too big for his boots Bajwa Bajwa will send him packing

    Imran Khan has never been an impressive leader either for Pakistan nor by word standards ...but the next one might be worse than him .

    I feel that we need to mend fences with Pakistan without lowering our self esteem because in the long run they will continue to be a thorn in the flesh causing loss of lives 

     


    Pay no mind to those who talk behind your back, it simply means that you are two steps ahead !!!


  • Re: Is it a good idea to take back part of Kashmir occupied by Pakistan?

    by » 3 months ago


    I don't want another war with Pakistan but if it happens then Pakistan will loose all its credibility if they loose the war which is inevitable. Even the Pakistanis will loose their self-confidence and trust in their army and leaders. In addition, Pakistan will become a laughing stock in the world.


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  • Re: Is it a good idea to take back part of Kashmir occupied by Pakistan?

    by » 3 months ago


    In fact now the external affairs minister of Pakistan has now said that they want talks ..just goes to show how hollow their threats are 


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  • Re: Is it a good idea to take back part of Kashmir occupied by Pakistan?

    by » 3 months ago


    I am reading everyday is news paper that Pakistan PM is threatening whole world, I never read any statement of India leader about war.


  • Re: Is it a good idea to take back part of Kashmir occupied by Pakistan?

    by » 3 months ago


    It's not a good idea to think of taking POK. Let India control the Kashmir Valley first because I suspect that 99.9% of the Muslims in the valley do not want to be with India. How will this problem be solved?


  • Re: Is it a good idea to take back part of Kashmir occupied by Pakistan?

    by » 3 months ago


    I repeat the people in 5 districts out of 20 have been thoroughly misled by the separatists. There is no such problem in Jammu region and Ladakh barring Kargil to some extent. Indian government has to tackle these 5 districts to straighten the situation.


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  • Re: Is it a good idea to take back part of Kashmir occupied by Pakistan?

    by » 3 months ago


    It's not a good idea to think of taking POK. Let India control the Kashmir Valley first because I suspect that 99.9% of the Muslims in the valley do not want to be with India. How will this problem be solved?


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