India has a large Muslim minority and a small but articulate Christian minority. These two communities have not adjusted to the fact that over all come what may, political power will be with Hindus. Muslims dream of 900 years of their rule and chrstians  of the time they were a pampered lot during British rule.

They thus bring up bogey of Safron terror, Hindutva and what not.  Christians dare not open their mouth in muslim nations and Muslims do not accept Hindus as equal where they rule, but in India both want special privileges. in this they are encouraged by some Hindu groups also. This is a recipe for disaster.

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  • Re: Minority ( Islam Christian) do not wish to be ruled by Hindus. They still have grandiose dreams of Muslim rule and British rule when chirtiisns had a free run

    by » 4 years ago


    You have summed up the situation perfectly well! That is why someone like Modi is needed, to deal with an iron hand. Yet, this bogey of 'Hinduism' is so much exaggerated by these other factions, that they keep keep bringing up Godhra which is quite a minuscule incident compared to centuries of tyranny under the Muslim and British rule combined and then later on., the Congress regime.


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  • Re: Minority ( Islam Christian) do not wish to be ruled by Hindus. They still have grandiose dreams of Muslim rule and British rule when chirtiisns had a free run

    by » 4 years ago


    Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:

    You have summed up the situation perfectly well! That is why someone like Modi is needed, to deal with an iron hand. Yet, this bogey of 'Hinduism' is so much exaggerated by these other factions, that they keep keep bringing up Godhra which is quite a minuscule incident compared to centuries of tyranny under the Muslim and British rule combined and then later on., the Congress regime.

    The Muslim rule was terrible. As brought out historians during Muslim rule more than 80 million Hindus were killed. This out of a population of 250 million. Muslims including Mughals were fond of making pyramids of skulls of hindus killed. It's so sad and now they have started talking of Hindu terror and all that bullshit

     


  • Re: Minority ( Islam Christian) do not wish to be ruled by Hindus. They still have grandiose dreams of Muslim rule and British rule when chirtiisns had a free run

    by » 4 years ago


    This is a needless and purposely provocative topic deliberately introduced without any evidence and merely on personal hunches and perceptions. Ideally it should not be encouraged. 


  • Re: Minority ( Islam Christian) do not wish to be ruled by Hindus. They still have grandiose dreams of Muslim rule and British rule when chirtiisns had a free run

    by » 4 years ago


    This is a needless and purposely provocative topic deliberately introduced without any evidence and merely on personal hunches and perceptions. Ideally it should not be encouraged. 


  • Re: Minority ( Islam Christian) do not wish to be ruled by Hindus. They still have grandiose dreams of Muslim rule and British rule when chirtiisns had a free run

    by » 4 years ago


    There is no evidence of the contents of the thread. Muslim rulers did not force sharia on Hindus and British did not force Christianity. Most of the conversions to Islam are Christianity are because of ill treatment to lower castes treating them as very inferior even less than animals. There are many contradiction in Hindu. This came to surface recently in the controversy of Durga Goddess V/s Mahisasur.  It will be better that vices like caste discrimination, dowry be first rectified. India is a secular nation and will never be either Islamic or Hindu. Nepal has removed the status of official religion so far given to Hindu. It is learnt that Bangladesh is also going to abolish the status of official religion presently accorded to Islam. 


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  • Re: Minority ( Islam Christian) do not wish to be ruled by Hindus. They still have grandiose dreams of Muslim rule and British rule when chirtiisns had a free run

    by » 4 years ago


    Going by the above argument it looks as if what we learnt in history was either untruth or the historians were a pack of liers...Some people would go to any length to prove black as white ..

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Hindus

     


    Pay no mind to those who talk behind your back, it simply means that you are two steps ahead !!!


  • Re: Minority ( Islam Christian) do not wish to be ruled by Hindus. They still have grandiose dreams of Muslim rule and British rule when chirtiisns had a free run

    by » 4 years ago


    usha manohar wrote:

    Going by the above argument it looks as if what we learnt in history was either untruth or the historians were a pack of liers...Some people would go to any length to prove black as white ..

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Hindus

    very true. Many of of esteemed in India want to deny the facts of history. here is a quote "According to Prof. K.S. Lal, the author of the Growth of Muslim population in India, the Hindu population decreased by 80 million between 1000 AD, the year Mahmud Ghazni invaded India and 1525 AD, a year before the battle of Panipat.

    One can safely add another 20 million Hindus to this list to account for the number that were killed during the Mughal rule or the rule of the Muslim rulers in the Deccan plateau. By all known accounts of world history, as pointed out by Koenard Elst in his book the Negationism in India, destruction of about 100 million hindus is perhaps the biggest holocaust in the whole world history. "

    yet one member says"  dont discuss this !!!!!!"

     

     


  • Re: Minority ( Islam Christian) do not wish to be ruled by Hindus. They still have grandiose dreams of Muslim rule and British rule when chirtiisns had a free run

    by » 4 years ago


    Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:

    There is no evidence of the contents of the thread. Muslim rulers did not force sharia on Hindus and British did not force Christianity. Most of the conversions to Islam are Christianity are because of ill treatment to lower castes treating them as very inferior even less than animals. There are many contradiction in Hindu. This came to surface recently in the controversy of Durga Goddess V/s Mahisasur.  It will be better that vices like caste discrimination, dowry be first rectified. India is a secular nation and will never be either Islamic or Hindu. Nepal has removed the status of official religion so far given to Hindu. It is learnt that Bangladesh is also going to abolish the status of official religion presently accorded to Islam. 

    British did not force Christianity and Muslims did not force Hindus to convert? Which history fif you learn incidentally? How and why are you trying to deny what really happened? Aren't you aware the manner in which Hindus were tortured, killed and cut into pieces by Muslims when they denied conversion? British threw pieces of meats down water wells and resorted to numerous other tactics to force Christianity. How can you people deny true facts?  Let Bangladesh abolish whatever it wants to. Why don't you go and cry yourself hoarse in Kashmir your thoughts of patriotism, in an Indian state where domestic advertisements all feature Pakistani establishments and Hindus are scared of talking about them. Go there and take Vijay along with you! It is because of people like you who deny our rightful history, that others have to now actively advocate rights of Hinduism.


    "I am free of all prejudice. I hate everyone equally."
    - W. C. Fields :)


  • Re: Minority ( Islam Christian) do not wish to be ruled by Hindus. They still have grandiose dreams of Muslim rule and British rule when chirtiisns had a free run

    by » 4 years ago


    Studying about World History and Indian History makes us headache. Many people lost their life during the time of Muslim rulers. That is a fact. King Ashoka was a Hindu ruler. He also killed so many people of his dynasty. Whatever happen in the past, now India is a sovereign socialist secular democratic republic. Our constitution provides equal opportunities to all the people of India regardless of sex, colour, language, caste and religion. Enjoy this freedom and lead a very happy life.


  • Re: Minority ( Islam Christian) do not wish to be ruled by Hindus. They still have grandiose dreams of Muslim rule and British rule when chirtiisns had a free run

    by » 4 years ago


    Kalyani Nandurkar wrote:
    Gulshan Kumar Ajmani wrote:

    There is no evidence of the contents of the thread. Muslim rulers did not force sharia on Hindus and British did not force Christianity. Most of the conversions to Islam are Christianity are because of ill treatment to lower castes treating them as very inferior even less than animals. There are many contradiction in Hindu. This came to surface recently in the controversy of Durga Goddess V/s Mahisasur.  It will be better that vices like caste discrimination, dowry be first rectified. India is a secular nation and will never be either Islamic or Hindu. Nepal has removed the status of official religion so far given to Hindu. It is learnt that Bangladesh is also going to abolish the status of official religion presently accorded to Islam. 

    British did not force Christianity and Muslims did not force Hindus to convert? Which history fif you learn incidentally? How and why are you trying to deny what really happened? Aren't you aware the manner in which Hindus were tortured, killed and cut into pieces by Muslims when they denied conversion? British threw pieces of meats down water wells and resorted to numerous other tactics to force Christianity. How can you people deny true facts?  Let Bangladesh abolish whatever it wants to. Why don't you go and cry yourself hoarse in Kashmir your thoughts of patriotism, in an Indian state where domestic advertisements all feature Pakistani establishments and Hindus are scared of talking about them. Go there and take Vijay along with you! It is because of people like you who deny our rightful history, that others have to now actively advocate rights of Hinduism.

    There is narration of some atrocities by Aurangzeb. But there is not much about Muslim rulers. The British- especially after 1857 when British queen took over- there was rule of law. British govt. did nothing for converting people to Christianity. That is why most of us are not Christians. In the North East people were illiterate. In the process of education and social service by Christian missionaries, they became Christians. Before that, they were not Hindus but just had their own peculiar tribal deities. We can't accuse entire Muslim period rulers and British government for conversion. Most of the conversion are from Tribal who have really been civilized by Christian missionaries. The dalits have never been treated even as human by the Hindu upper classes. naturally, many changed to Christianity of Muslim. why accuse Muslims and Christians for that. 


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